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Old 07-14-2015, 11:51 AM
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no sympathy at all for him


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Old 07-14-2015, 12:07 PM
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Sorry, I realize that he's an adult who's responsible for his own actions but he's also an addict, just as another prominent member of the band once was. I do feel sympathy for the man and hope that he can find a way to give up smoking. Another one of my favorites, Leonard Nimoy, passed away earlier this year due to COPD after years of smoking. As both a Fleetwood Mac and Star Trek fan, I want to see John live longer and prosper.
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Old 07-14-2015, 12:22 PM
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It depends on what type of colorectal cancer he had. Cigarette smoking increases the risk of MSI-H CRC, while alcohol intake increases the risk MSI-L CRC. According to Christine, he gave up drinking after the diagnosis. So, reading between the lines, his cancer was probably related more to his heavy alcohol use.
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Yes, but surely now he's on a strict health plan with a diet and meds and it isn't wise to take them while smoking anyway.
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Old 07-14-2015, 03:38 PM
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I'm certainly no doctor, but...
surely if you've smoked heavily all your life, by the time you reach that age it isn't going to make the blindest bit of difference to your future health whether you give up or not. The damage to your lungs in particular would be pretty much irreparable.
Arguably, a smoking addict giving up something they've relied on so much after such a long time would hit the body more and likely have a huge impact on the immune system.
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Old 07-14-2015, 03:59 PM
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It seems a little disingenuous to judge how much someone smokes by a video shot at the airport after a long flight.
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:41 PM
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Whether or not people smoke is not at all my business .... regardless of the circumstances. Who knows whether he is actually self medicating in this way? Lots of people with colitis etc. smoke to relieve symptoms.
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Old 07-14-2015, 05:18 PM
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Sorry, I realize that he's an adult who's responsible for his own actions but he's also an addict, just as another prominent member of the band once was. I do feel sympathy for the man and hope that he can find a way to give up smoking. Another one of my favorites, Leonard Nimoy, passed away earlier this year due to COPD after years of smoking. As both a Fleetwood Mac and Star Trek fan, I want to see John live longer and prosper.
Leonard Nimoy hadn't smoked in over 30 years when he died. Which proves the point that someone else made, the damage had been done.
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Old 07-14-2015, 05:24 PM
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What in the devil, John? Could you HAVE more assistants? Next thing I know, he's going to have his own back up singers.

So, he and Lindsey didn't want to hug goodbye?

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I was surprised too to see him smoking after beating cancer. But it's a hard addiction to break. I haven't smoked since my early 20's, but I still have an occasional craving.
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It makes me sad. I love John McVie and wish him a long and healthy life. But, nobody's perfekt.
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Leonard Nimoy hadn't smoked in over 30 years when he died. Which proves the point that someone else made, the damage had been done.
Nimoy was already in his 50's when he quit and lived another 30 years. John is pushing 70 but apparently is still smoking. His habit will continue to have a negative impact on his health and will make it much less likely that he will live as long as Nimoy did. COPD is not at all a pleasant way to go.

Here is a quote from a Wikipedia article regarding COPD:

In those who smoke, stopping smoking is the only measure shown to slow down the worsening of COPD.[59] Even at a late stage of the disease, it can reduce the rate of worsening lung function and delay the onset of disability and death.[60]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroni...monary_disease
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no sympathy at all for him

What a goof. That's for everyone who smokes
these days.

On a side note...
I would get so tired of people filming me everywhere
I went. The life of a Rock $tar.
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What a goof. That's for everyone who smokes
these days.

On a side note...
I would get so tired of people filming me everywhere
I went. The life of a Rock $tar.
John McVie is a bass player, not a rock star, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. He's gone out of the way to not be one. He doesn't aim for the spotlight and he mostly quit giving interviews. His job is to show up, play bass, and go home or to the hotel. That's not to say he doesn't take pride in his work, but it's his job. He's a namesake of a hugely popular band, but nothing in how he conducts himself suggests he puts any stock whatsoever in his perceived celebrity status.
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The fact that he was seen coughing, makes the smoking seem even worse of course.

But heaven knows I sometimes have an uncontrollable cough (that overtakes me at the most embarassing times) and I haven't smoked a day in my life.

Interesting to see that even though John gets recognized least often of the 5. He still has to deal with frequent interruptions -- at least at LAX.

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